{"id":7826,"date":"2011-10-13T14:59:01","date_gmt":"2011-10-13T21:59:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/?p=7826"},"modified":"2023-02-01T07:06:44","modified_gmt":"2023-02-01T14:06:44","slug":"old-jets-older-stories","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/?p=7826","title":{"rendered":"Air-Minded: Old Jets, Older Stories"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>People who don&#8217;t know any better are starting to think the F-15 Eagle &#8230; like me &#8230; is ancient history. Witness this BBC News story, gleefully shared by a Facebook friend:<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Screen Shot 2017-01-11 at 8.51.04 AM\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/world-asia-pacific-15226437\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/c7.staticflickr.com\/1\/512\/31408153574_5469d31d47_z.jpg\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2017-01-11 at 8.51.04 AM\" width=\"640\" height=\"368\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/world-asia-pacific-15226437\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">linked story<\/a> describes how Japan grounded its Eagle fleet after a fuel tank and training missile fell off a wing of an F-15J during a training mission.&nbsp; From the article:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Japan Air Self-Defence Force officials said that all missions except emergency scrambles were suspended and will last until the safety of Japan&#8217;s 202 F-15 fighters has been confirmed.<\/p>\n<p>The latest incident comes as Tokyo is seeking to replace its aging fighter jets. It is considering both US-designed aircraft and the Eurofighter Typhoon in a deal expected by the end of the year and worth more than $8bn.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Aging? &nbsp;I thought that adjective was reserved for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.af.mil\/news\/story.asp?storyID=123025604\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">B-52 Stratofortress<\/a>, which has been around since the 1950s, and of which it is often said the youngest pilots to fly it haven&#8217;t been born yet.<\/p>\n<p>In any case, when a fuel tank and training missile drop off a wing, the cause is far more likely to have been a pilot-induced oops than anything to do with the age of the aircraft.&nbsp; You never touch the selective jettison controls unless you mean it.<\/p>\n<p>Of course this is not to say the F-15 isn&#8217;t old.&nbsp; Just that this incident in Japan doesn&#8217;t seem to have anything to do with age.&nbsp; You want to read about an F-15 accident that had something to do with the age of the airplane, <a href=\"http:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/?p=308\">click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">One of the historical aircraft I tell Pima Air &amp; Space Museum visitors about is the Hawker Hurricane, a famous Battle of Britain fighter.&nbsp; When I show them the Hurricane I always point out its distinctive stirrup:<\/p>\n<p><figure style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a title=\"hurricane_stirrup\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/halfmind\/32100624822\/in\/dateposted-public\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/c7.staticflickr.com\/1\/642\/32100624822_35dce4373c_z.jpg\" alt=\"hurricane_stirrup\" width=\"640\" height=\"499\"><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><\/p><center>The Hurricane&#8217;s stirrup (photo: Scale Model News)<\/center><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><\/p>\n<p>Of course the stirrup is there to help you climb up onto the wing, which you must do in order to get to the cockpit.&nbsp; And that allows me to ask the crowd if they know why you always climb into an airplane from the left side, rather than the right.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Supposedly it&#8217;s a holdover from the cavalry days: you mount a horse from the left side.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s any truth to that, but it&#8217;s a good story.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Now by &#8220;airplane&#8221; I mean mostly fighter-type aircraft with either a single seat or two seats fore &amp; aft.&nbsp; Granted, a lot of light aircraft &#8230; Cessnas and such &#8230; have side-by-side seats with hatches or doors on both sides, as do airliners.&nbsp; But fighters, yeah, you mount from the left.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Yesterday, though, I got to thinking about it, and it hit me there are at least two aircraft on display at the museum that were designed to be mounted from the right.&nbsp; Neither is a fighter, true, but both are fore &amp; aft seaters: the Curtiss O-52 Owl and the Columbia XJL-1.&nbsp; Of the two, the Owl is more obviously meant to be entered from the right:<\/p>\n<p><figure style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a title=\"Curtis O-52 Owl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/wingsnstuff\/5672669141\/in\/photolist-7J2Win-9DgUUn-fdGKYj-n9Sy5D-6T6Zor-8tRhL9-4MhLrv-LeJ8wV\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/c6.staticflickr.com\/6\/5184\/5672669141_de97525642_z.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"425\"><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><\/p><center>Curtis O-52 Owl (photo credit: wingsnstuff\/Flickr)<\/center><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><\/p>\n<p>The Columbia XJL-1, a seaplane, is a little less obvious.&nbsp; It has recesses with hinged cover plates on the right side.&nbsp; The idea is that you stick your hands and feet into the recesses and use them as a ladder to climb up to the wing and cockpit (you can see&nbsp;them in this photo, just ahead of the wing):<\/p>\n<p><figure style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a title=\"Columbia XJL-1 (view # 2)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/halfmind\/7074193235\/in\/photolist-bydsnf-bM86at-bM8afg-bM86bT-bydsgE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/c4.staticflickr.com\/8\/7050\/7074193235_8987007c8b_z.jpg\" alt=\"Columbia XJL-1 (view # 2)\" width=\"640\" height=\"370\"><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><\/p><center>Columbia XJL-1 (photo: Paul Woodford)<\/center><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><\/p>\n<p>The Owl does not have a similar door on the other side, nor does the XJL-1 have steps and handholds on the left.&nbsp; In the case of the Owl, I can see why the hatch is on the right: if you look through the cockpit to the left side you&#8217;ll see that the throttle and prop controls are on that side, right where the hatch would otherwise be.&nbsp; But the seaplane?&nbsp; Who knows?&nbsp; Maybe the Navy just likes to be different.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a mystery, but never fear &#8230; I&#8217;m on the case!<\/p>\n\n\n<p><em>\u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/?page_id=14450\"><strong> back to the Air-Minded Index<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>People who don&#8217;t know any better are starting to think the F-15 Eagle &#8230; like me &#8230; is ancient history. Witness this BBC News story, gleefully shared by a Facebook friend: The linked story describes how Japan grounded its Eagle fleet after a fuel tank and training missile fell off a wing of an F-15J [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1960,3],"tags":[157,329,328,124,327],"class_list":["post-7826","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-air-minded","category-flying","tag-air-minded","tag-columbia-xjl-1","tag-curtiss-o-52-own","tag-f-15-eagle","tag-hawker-hurricane"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7826","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7826"}],"version-history":[{"count":17,"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7826\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32769,"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7826\/revisions\/32769"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7826"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7826"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pwoodford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7826"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}